Es la primera vez que pongo un artículo en inglés pero es que merece la pena. Lejos de seguirle el juego a Hamilton como ha hecho la prensa sensacionalista, muchos aficionados ingleses están indignados con Hamilton tras tachar de 'sucio' a Fernando Alonso. Le recuerdan que solo hay una trazada en Eau Rouge y que debería mirarse al espejo antes de decirle a nadie que es un piloto 'sucio'.Hamilton con sus declaraciones ha mentido y ha intentado echarle la prensa encima a Fernando Alonso. Con la prensa sensacionalista le ha dado resultado, pero la afición inglesa no se ha dejado engañar y le recuerdan que Ferrari y Alonso fueron siempre más rápidos que él en Bélgica. Y que si alguién debe estar afectado por el caso de espionaje ese es Fernando Alonso, que fue quién tuvo que mostrar sus emails.
Estas son las opiniones de algunos aficionados en la web planet-f1.com, una web que ha sido bastante dura con Fernando Alonso hasta ahora.
Lewis Can't Take What He Gives Out
Once
again the carefully polished and stage-managed veneer cracks and we see
the true Lewis Hamilton; someone who despite years of presumably
immaculate guidance from Ron Dennis has again shown himself up to be
little more than an insufferable spoilt brat who can't take what he's
happy to dish out.
"It wasn't fair... it was hard..." he says of Alonso's move on him - well Diddums! You've spent the season indulging in aggressive, reprehensible and potentially dangerous cuts and blockouts off the start, but as soon as someone does it to you, it's "unfair" - dammit man, get a grip - you sound like Kevin The Teenager.
It's an outburst that along with the accompanying desperate jibes against Alonso (I love the team more, I've had a worse week than he has, blah blah - incidentally how could he possibly have had a worse week than Alonso who was named and implicated in the material evidence of the spy case?) shows what a barely-controlled, unpleasant piece of work he is.
During those first races I was worried that it was ITV's sickening fixation on him that was going to make me dislike him. But actually he's gone on and managed it himself...
Shut up and grow up Lewis.
Gareth Bouch, London
Lewis Is At It Again
Just like in Monaco when he
didn't get his way he starts to moan about something that never
happened. Alonso's move was completely typical of a racing driver who
fights on track rather than providing long processional drives from
those who don't have the guts to stand their grounds.
And JV is right for once when he said Hamilton's race start moves are highly vulgar and dirty, spot on mate. And now this spoiled British brat is whining about some one else's moves when he couldn't get his way.
Had Alonso's and Hamilton's places been switched, the entire British press will be going goo-goo-gaa over "Hamilton amazing defense", but when it's Alonso it's "dirty driving".
Shut up Hamilton, you know you are being cornered from all sides in Stepneygate and now Alonso, if you can't handle the heat get out of F1. It's not for the timid.
Hamilton is a crybaby and his showing it. Maybe he need breast feeding from Ron Dennis?!
V.H
That's Rich
That's more than rich coming from him I
think since it is that whiney boy from Stevenage who has taken up
Michael's baton in continuing the Schumi chop. Fernando didn't chop
him, rather outlasted him through Eau Rouge.
If Hammy can't stand the heat then he should get the hell out of the kitchen.
Weenson Andrew, London
Hey Wonderboy...
Stop pointing your car like an arrow
on the starting grid and doing the Schumacher dive across the circuit
before you complain about someone else, let alone a two-time World
Champion not giving you enough room at the start of the race.
You were slower than the Ferraris and Fernando all weekend. Put your energy into driving the car faster or your Drivers' Championship is gone. All McLaren have left to race for this season is the driver's title, Lewis couldn't have expected Fernando to let him get by, could he? Welcome to F1, kid.
Hamilton has quite a Machiavellian Schumacher-esque mean streak in him, as does Alonso, so don't be surprised to see either of them drive into the other at Interlagos if it ensures winning the World Drivers' Championship. The great Senna and Schumi both did it.
Ron is going to be putting out more fires in the McLaren garage before this one is over.
John Zile, Pleasanton, CA
Thanks For The Laugh
Forgive me but I need to laugh
here, err what? Hamilton what did you say? Alonso is driving dirty? Is
it because he just trashed you out on track?
Hey c**p pit, did you ever know that there is only 1 racing line through the Eau Rouge? Guess you didn't know that, and Alonso had the correct racing line you didn't, simple. It's not dirty driving. Try rephrasing that as "I don't know how to overtake or drive in such situations and that I need my car 2 secs faster than the guys ahead to pull a move."
And why not look at your own dirty moves like the ones in Monza, Europe where you got a free illegal crane lift after crashing out, is that fair? I don't think so, not too fair for F1 fans out here.
If Hamilton thinks people have sympathy for him, he is terribly wrong no one cares about his complaints anymore. It's just like an annoying fly on the back of an elephant.
He said it himself, he doesn't care about the technical aspects,
yeah he has Alonso's data to copy from. Now I get it. Thanks for that
one Lewis.
Jimmy Williams
...Complaining about Alonso's unfair defense of his line? He is must be joking, is this guy for real? Talk about all the dirty start line moves against Kimi, Massa and Alonso through out this season, and his illegal track cutting at Monza after he cut the track in front of Massa and the forcing Massa to touch.
Hamilton is the one who tried to run others off the track throughout his career.
This brat is whining now that he can't copy Alonso's data anymore. Stop whining kid and start driving, but we already know you can't do that, looks like angle's dream is going up in smoke with Kimi and Alonso going for gold.
And we don't buy for a minute that Hami boy never knew anything about the Ferrari fino when the test drivers and test team knew about it, and in a team where everything goes to the British favoured son.
It's a shame he have such whining brats in F1 like Hamilton.
Francis Mayker
Tell Me Lies, Tell Me Sweet Little Lies
Lewis: Alonso tried to take me off. Oh did he?
Hamilton should be sat down and shown the video of him shoving Massa onto the grass at the start of Monza. If MS had done that world war 3 would have broken out, but it's "tough but fair" because it's our Lewis.
Whine, whine - it's clear that Hamilton is one of those that
throws his toys out of the pram if he can't get his own way. He really
is starting to become very tedious. Just admit it - you weren't good
enough today. Is there any significance that his recent drop off in
performance matches the bust up between Hamilton and Alonso, such that
Hamilton no longer gets Alonso's set up?
Paul Barrow
Pot, Kettle, Black
Funny that when he almost runs
Massa off the track, from the start after aggressively pointing his car
straight at Massa it's good old racing spirit. When Alonso holds the
line he's a cheating scumbag.
Hamilton once again showing his "class", just like when he had a go at the back of the grid for daring to hold him up.
Alonso is going to nick this title and it's going to be sweet.
Greg Thomas
Lewis Needs To Look At Himself Before Pointing Fingers
Hamilton
criticised Alonso for trying to take him out on the first lap of the
Belgium Grand Prix. Shouldn't Hamilton really look at his performance
in the race beforehand? Because if I am mistaken, which I'm sure I'm
not, he moved over to try and take out Felipe Massa. Is it one rule for
him and another for his team-mate Alonso?
He needs to learn that in racing you will have people fighting over positions. You will go off track because of it. He has to realise that he is losing it, in fact he probably knows he's losing it that's why he's complaining. Fernando was well within his right to defend his position, and that was all he was doing when he took Hamilton off track. Likewise when Hamilton tried to take Massa off track the week before.
It's racing lovey, get used to it. This proves that he has been given privileges, he obviously doesn't have the maturity to be racing with the big boys. He really needs to learn that winning isn't everything, maybe he should be sent back to GP2 where he can win everything again just so it can make him happy. As it seems that winning is everything for him.
Even if he did get in front of Alonso he wouldn't have kept him behind, considering his car was slower then his team-mates.
Kayleigh Beckman, Brighton, England
Hamilton Should Pull His Own Weight
Lewis should
concentrate on his set up, and he needs to very badly since he hasn't
been allowed to copycat Fernando during the last 3 races. It shows in
spades. If he wants to project himself as a Champion F1 racing driver
he should do his homework, no more wet nursing by Ron. Carry your own
weight chump. He is now the whiner that the British press has been
accusing Fernando of being.
Fernando had an excuse, aside from his manager, medical guy, and father, he is all alone in a team that has been sleazily undermining him since Monaco. What's Lewis's excuse??? In the end Fernando did what he had to do to level the playing field. Dennis is sleazy, Fernando is smart. All is fair in love and war. The British wrote the book on that, ya????
Now the FIA is watching every move of McLaren in the pits, so they cannot tilt the balance in favor of their muppet and there will be "equality" in the McLaren pits during the last four races. Finally!!!
So what's Lewis excuse for whining, he got pushed? Alonso was on
the racing line, Lewis was not. Further, he forgets what he did in
Indianapolis. Lewis may be a good driver, but he has a lot to thank
Fernando for. He made Lewis look good until mid-season while Fernando
was getting used to the Bridgestone tires. Now he has mastered them and
has his head down, focused on racing and winning. The world will
realise very shortly who is the better driver.
Carlos
More Mails On Stepneygate Verdict
What I don't
understand is why Ron Dennis has not summarily dismissed Fernando
Alonso and Pedro De La Rosa for 'cheating' as he did Mike Coughlan. It
is clear from the e-mail transcripts that they had sought to use the
information Mike received from Stepney to their advantage and therefore
there must be something in their contracts that covers such an
eventuality. This does not seem to have be considered in any of the
commentary on this topic.
Surely that would be in line with Ron Dennis' stance on fair play, honesty and integrity. Come on Ron clean your house out and get rid of these rotten apples!
Just a thought...
Mike
...I am a Ferrari supporter not McLaren. Alonso did nothing wrong he informed the FIA of what was going on at McLaren. As a driver your loyalty is to your team but if your team shows you no loyalty why should he? Why should Alonso take the heat for supplying the FIA with the e-mails McLaren are the cheats not him. He did the right thing.
At the beginning of the season Alonso kept saying that McLaren were favouring Hamilton with better technical support that him obviously Alonso was right but then in the English eye's Hamilton is the blue eyed guy. Hamilton is not winning too many friends among the drivers with some of the comments he makes. If it had been Ferrari with McLaren information all hell would have broken loose and I bet you anything Ferrari would have been fined and kicked out of the rest of the year's race's and not able to take part in next year's race's.
Alonso must go and drive for a team that will appreciate what he
brings to them and treats him with respect obviously McLaren don't
respect him. Alonso, in hindsight, should have taken the Ferrari offer
instead of going to McLaren.
Helen, South Africa
...It's amazing that people are so quick to put down Alonso, and to a lesser extent De La Rosa. That fact is they engaged in an activity that is common within Formula One. Many feel that Alonso sold McLaren out with his submission. Recall the incident at the Hungarian GP. Following Alonso's penalty, he and Ron Dennis had an exchange on the Sunday morning in which Alonso threatened Dennis with his email trail. The key thing to remember is that all of this was instigated by LEWIS HAMILTON first ignoring the planned strategy of Q3. Had he followed the original strategy, Alonso would not have waited in the pits, been penalised (along with McLaren) and have that exchange the next morning. So, perhaps LEWIS HAMILTON is the one who triggered a series of events that led to the downfall of the team that has supported him for 10 years.
Also, it is also important to not lose sight that Nigel Stepney's actions were the product of Jean Todt's mismanagement. Nigel Stepney was clearly, and publicly, unhappy about his situation, yet Mr. Todt appears to have (perhaps arrogantly) ignore the signs, and not deal with the situation. Should Ferrari be punished? Absolutely, the precedent was set. Again, going back to Hungary, Alonso and McLaren were punished for what was essentially an intra-team problem. The only person Alonso intended to address was Lewis Hamilton and was done in the pits. This is different than Schumacher obstructing the entire field in Monaco. Yet, the stewards interfered with an intra-term issue and decided to impose a penalty. In that same manner, Ferrari should also be handed a penalty.
So, in a nutshell, should McLaren be punished, probably, but
then so should everybody else. That fact is there are no innocent
parties in this whole issue, and for that matter in Formula One. That
is simply how the game is played.
Umayr
...Like the majority I am broadly pro McLaren, anti Ferrari, anti Max and anti FIA, however even to this jaundiced eye the FIA explanation does seem horribly convincing. Hard to see how all those Stepney texts emails and calls weren't being used in McLaren engineering departments.
As to the punishments, it still seems too severe given the culture in F1 to use anything you can get hold of. But then, the drivers' central role doesn't really square with their not being given any penalty at all, despite the amnesty - a bit convenient - so it looks like they loaded up the team penalty to compensate. Still it would have been a pity not to have Hamilton and Alonso fighting it out to the end. Just have to hope that Lewis can prevail over the loyalty-free Fernando.
Was it *really* Ron who told the FIA about the emails? Incredible. Hope McLaren publish their document!
Nigel Robertson
...I am frankly baffled by the outcry against McLaren's punishment. Having read the full FIA report about how McLaren used the Ferrari data it is clear, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that McLaren used this data in their testing protocols and to direct the development of the car. Yes, the McLaren is significantly different to the Ferrari but the information they had, and used, put them at considerable advantage. Whilst it is impossible to speculate as to whether the McLaren car would be any different without the Ferrari data, surely everyone must agree that to not punish this blatant cheating would set a dangerous precedent.
However, the way McLaren have been excluded from the
championship is cockhanded - for me, the fine is punishment enough. If
Ferrari are indeed a sporting team they surely would want to win their
constructors championship on the track and not in the court rooms.
Dan, London
...It is quite amazing that the incriminating evidence comes from the drivers, while at the same time they are being pardoned. Both de la Rosa and Alonso cheated by seeking and obtaining illicit Ferrari information (which they were clear that was from Stepney). So, if Ron Dennis is really so interested in having a clean house (the moral high ground that he has been boasting about in the media), he should immediately fire de la Rosa and Alonso because they have confessed to have cheated.
On the other hand, we have Mr. Hamilton saying that he had nothing to submit. Was he really out of this, or is he simply trying to be a team member and walk along the party line that "McLaren did not cheat". Well, if he is later found out to have also used information from Stepney then he is in for a bad time. The FIA said "However, the drivers were notified that if it later came to light that they had withheld any potentially relevant information, serious consequences could follow." So if Hamilton is hiding information he could get in a lot of trouble in the future.
I feel sorry for Massa and Raikkonen since they are the ones
being badly treated: their competitors have cheated by their own
admission but were pardoned. Massa and Raikkonen are paying for all of
the Media excitement around the Alonso vs Hamilton fight, both of whom
have cheated or benefited from their team cheating.
Pedro, Manchester, UK
...It would seem unfair that none of the McLaren Drivers were penalised in any way, although it is now pretty certain that they enjoyed an unfair advantage through enjoying an "illegally" superior platform in which to display their skills. That aside - Alonso and de la Rosa must be feeling particularly smug at the moment having escaped censure despite being caught "red handed" attempting full use of this information to gain advantage over Ferrari (and by inference, BMW, Honda et al).
Lewis Hamilton and Ron Dennis have at least acquitted themselves admirably during the scandal and I believe have emerged with their reputations and integrity intact - (and in Ron's case absolutely enhanced through his reaction to the absolutely disgraceful attempt by Alonso to "blackmail" his own team in order to gain advantage over Hamilton).
Motorsport and F1 in particular is a team event - without a
competitive car even the most talented driver on the planet would not
win. Alonso has behaved like a spoiled brat all season in response to
healthy competition from Hamilton and I sincerely hope that he enjoys
being beaten in his Renault (or whatever) next season by both Ferrari
and McLaren. He clearly represents poor value for money in relation to
Hamilton (who if reports are to be believed commands 10% of his fee)
and has shown himself very clearly to be unworthy of inclusion in any
team sport.
Colin Benson
...The one underlying fact that no-one has mentioned and everyone has seemed to overlook, is that McLaren received STOLEN goods. Ferrari's technical dossier was stolen from their offices by an employee and handed over to McLaren. As a result there should be criminal charges being investigated and quite frankly when I read last week that McLaren's CEO was shown some of the dossier and then referred it to his engineering guys, I was shocked. He really should be sacked for incompetence (and stupidity) - he could have (and SHOULD have) nipped this in he bud by picking up the phone and alerting Ferrari that he has come into possession etc etc. I am sure all the teams 'cheat' and push the rule limits and that all the teams talk between each other but this is a matter of handling another organisations intellectual property in a physical sense and receiving stolen materials - very different...
McLaren should have been punished, probably so should have their
drivers, but as for a $100m fine, ridiculous and WHERE does the money
go to????
Steve Breen
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